Talk:A Guide to Anonymous Boards

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I went ahead and copied the text into the wiki, I think the original poster won't mind. Let's get to work! —IAAPMOTESOD 04:35, 25 June 2008 (PDT)

Links to quote or mention[edit]

Add them here if you can't fit them in the text yet.


I actually don't think we should include anything from Shii. This is simply because what he wrote focuses on how helpful the responses are and as he sees later on, anonymous boards aren't necessarily more helpful. I think instead we should stick to our focus on the culture of anonymous boards and why they are fun/interesting to post on. We could quote Hiroyuki some more though.

Anonymity[edit]

Sorry to go all wikipedia on this one, but if this guide is to be pretty general, I think we should remove slant about anonymity and just describe the customs. Things like

"Obviously this also means that, while posting as Anonymous, your work and your posts might never be directly attributed to you, regardless of the effort you put in them"

and

"Several Anonymous Boards allow also posting under a name; this could be seen as a way to ruin the purpose of anonymity, but can be useful to recognize some notable persons, such as administrators and moderators."

are strongly opinionated. Could we make it more factual, instead of sounding like a rant? —IAAPMOTESOD 05:35, 25 June 2008 (PDT) (lol name)

I think we can take out the first line you quoted. It doesn't seem necessary to me. I think we shouldn't even bring up the fact that anonymous boards allow posting under a name is bad but we could just briefly say "some boards allow users to maintain a tripcode and name throughout a board if they choose." How does that sound? Users can decide if they think that's bad or not for the board after reading what we already said about the purpose of being anonymous. If this sounds good then go ahead and edit it.

Tripcodes[edit]

Since imageboards also have a password field, I think we should remove mentions of the word "password" to avoid confusion : I made the change, but the paragraph still makes little sense, it needs a good rewording. Also, if we're gonna mention this topic, I think we should mention how easy it is to crack weak tripcodes, and provide a simple rule of thumb about them (more than 10 characters, not a dictionary word, include both letters and numbers, don't use your tripcode on sites you don't trust). —IAAPMOTESOD 05:42, 25 June 2008 (PDT)

Made a lot of changes to the section, link to the relevant diff. Do you guys think the tripcode section strikes a good balance between providing a good explanation and not providing too many irrelevant technical details? Do you think it's a good way of mentioning sites that run a 2ch/futaba-clone software but where posters always use a name? —IAAPMOTESOD 12:44, 27 June 2008 (PDT)
I think it's fine the way it is right now. It does a perfectly fine job of explaining things.


If you actually need to use a tripcode, make sure you don't use something shorter than 8 characters, or a word in the dictionary: cracking such a tripcode by brute force (using a computer to try every combination) is really easy! Um, what. Tripcodes longer than 8 characters are pointless:

name#tripcode => name!3GqYIJ3Obs
name#tripcodeblahblah => name!3GqYIJ3Obs

Perhaps that was referring to secure trips, but unless you have the secret string, you can't really brute force them without flooding the board with test posts.

Shit, that's what I get for never having actually used them, I was pretty sure you could use a very long string. I'm gonna put a message on the top of the section to mention it's wrong but I'd prefer if someone who knew the stuff better could reword it then. What's the limit of what is reasonably crackable nowadays, and what would take weeks? I'm pretty sure that there are well-known tripcode users who have never been cracked. —IAAPMOTESOD 04:35, 29 June 2008 (PDT)


Asked for help here: http://wakaba.c3.cx/soc/kareha.pl/1100499906/405 -—IAAPMOTESOD 11:18, 2 July 2008 (PDT)

FIXED. I think. Thanks everyone for the help.

futaba and lurking[edit]

I definitely remember reading in somebody's guide to futaba or something that there is a word for the six months you're supposed to lurk before posting. Does anyone else remember this? I tried searching around a bit on 4-ch and the society for imageboard discussion board but did not see anything. I think it needs to go in the lurking part. ID:x99QfBlI 00:11, 26 June 2008 (PDT)

Yep I know exactly what you're talking about. It's here: http://shii.org/knows/Futaba_Channel I'm not sure how to fit it in so go for it.

Larval stage? Far as I know, it's been called just "lurking" since times immemorial on the USENET news of the nineteen-seventies. So, uh, maybe let's stick with the established word or something. --Turippufaggu 14:35, 26 June 2008 (PDT)

Also also, "reading the air" is not the same as lurking. Which I think supports the "just go with lurking" point of view. (unless of course this is Elite Grammarian level epic, in which case this is me stepping right down) --Turippufaggu 10:31, 27 June 2008 (PDT)
I bet esr is the only person in the world to have ever used the phrase "Larval stage" seriously on the modern worldwideintraweb. As dubious evidence, I submit Results 1 - 100 of about 1,030 for "Larval stage" lurk -jargon. Nothing wrong with lurking. Also, care to explain or link to a clear explanation about the connotations of "reading the air", please? —IAAPMOTESOD 11:53, 27 June 2008 (PDT)
Yes, I agree. And I have no link or an in-depth explanation of "reading the air", but I've understood it as something between lurking, careful reading and being aware of the zeitgeist. (also the stepping down means from this argument) --Turippufaggu 12:15, 27 June 2008 (PDT)
Reading the air is essentially being able to know the jokes/figure them out. Sort of like lurking. Hiroyuki says it occasionally. I think it's better to stick with just lurking so people know what we are talking about.